Dems to Bush: Don't Screw with Us
Yeah, baby. Pushed far enough, one tends to begin to push back. It's the New Democratic Party, and we're not taking the White House's shit anymore.
Dems tell Bush to stop cracks on Senate's Reid
Senate Democrats demanded Thursday that President Bush order a halt to personal attacks on the party's leader, Sen. Harry Reid, and expressed regret that they had failed to mount a stronger defense for his defeated predecessor.
"This is a new Democratic Party," Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said at a news conference called to release a letter telling Bush to muzzle his "political operatives."
"It says to the president, 'You will not intimidate us,' " said Schumer, who likened the attacks on Reid to political knee-cappings.
The letter itself was written in milder terms. "We urge you to keep your word about being a uniter and publicly halt these counterproductive attacks so that we are able to work together in a bipartisan manner and debate issues on the merits," it says.
Bush and the White House have denied responsibility for the attacks.
But Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate after Reid, ridiculed that assertion, as Reid did earlier in the week.
"This is the Abu Ghraib defense, that a few renegade soldiers are responsible for their own behavior and the commanders are not accountable," Durbin said.
The letter to Bush was signed by all Senate Democrats except Reid, as well as Vermont Sen. James Jeffords, an independent.
Reid was named to succeed Tom Daschle in December and quickly was attacked as an obstructionist by Republican National Committee.








This is probably the Howard Dean Factor. Dean won't put up with the crap like his predecessors did.
Posted by: Gregg | Feb 11, 2005 at 03:55 AM
Sen.Reid, like Daschle before him do not seem to feel the anger and frustrations like we do out here in the "Hinterland". Unless someone has the courage to say "enough is enough" it all seems pretty hopeless. So, I am just waiting for the next Bush, Jeb, to take over to do the NeoCons bidding. Shucks, the way things are going even Neil miight have a chance.
Posted by: Frieda | Feb 11, 2005 at 03:58 AM
Not just Howard Dean, but also Sen. Barbara Boxer and Representatives Cynthia McKenney, Maxine Waters and the rest of the Congressional Black Caucus. And it's also fueled by a wonderfully united progressive and liberal mass of Democrats and others that are tired of those red party bullies.
'Bout time the Dems started pulling together and standing up to the jerks. But the desired transformation still has a way to go.
Posted by: Treva | Feb 11, 2005 at 04:24 AM
Whenever I contact a dem congresscritter pleading they put up a fight, I always close with: Remember the Rose Garden, illuding to that precious moment of Daschle and Gephart standing shoulder to shoulder with the pRez. A disgusting memory that will haunt me for eternity.
Posted by: Vicki | Feb 11, 2005 at 05:04 AM
So, I am just waiting for the next Bush, Jeb, to take over to do the NeoCons bidding.
Um, Jeb IS a NeoCon. He's a signer of PNAC statement of principles datad June 3, 1997.
Posted by: exgop | Feb 11, 2005 at 05:24 AM
I for one, will have nothing to do with anyone associated with the Reich Wing Religious Fundie Bull Shit... I like Communists a hell of a lot more than I like Christians... Americans need to pull their collective heads out of their collective asses and see the damage these blind stupid fucks are causing in the world today.. They want Armageddon I think the rest of the world should give it to them IN SPADES!!!
Posted by: Ken Jackson | Feb 11, 2005 at 07:13 AM
I don't understand this sudden cohesion of the dems. Why did it take so long to learn not to turn the other cheek? When they perceive their jobs are on the line I wonder if they'll just cave?
Posted by: rhoda | Feb 11, 2005 at 09:28 AM
We (the people) need to let them know that they will not have jobs if they go along with these crooks.
Posted by: I HATE Republicans | Feb 11, 2005 at 11:58 AM
If the Dems don't get the guts to back Dean the way they should have in the first place, it's time to form a new party. The only thing worse than a Greedy selfish Republican is a Democrat who knows better but doesn't have the balls to say it.
Time for action!
Posted by: walt | Feb 11, 2005 at 03:22 PM
It's not that the Dems don't give back to the GOP. Often the press just doesn't report it. This is because Faux News and the right wing echo chamber drown out the Dem voices. We need our own Faux News.
Posted by: bakho | Feb 11, 2005 at 09:36 PM
This monkey is a lame duck. I am crossing my fingers that some Repugs, who imagine that they will be in the House long after the monkey swings out may be getting a whiff of how the wind is blowing...it may be CYA and it may be some emerging sense of responsibility (LOL), but those few may be the ones that help the re-spining Dems stand up and make some actual changes that empower rather than defeat. Hope springs eternal, I guess.
Posted by: Sally | Feb 12, 2005 at 02:44 AM
With Dean at the helm I hope, and really expect, that the Dems will come out fighting.
I also hope that Jeb Bush is the nominee in 2008 because I have enough on him to bury him forever. He was involved in smuggling of cocaine to this country for cash to support the rebels in Central
America back when his father was the head of CIA. Geo.H.W. new about it also.
Posted by: Paul | Feb 12, 2005 at 09:16 AM
Some great comments here. My belief is democrats have finally decided that offering their hands across the aisle in a gesture of conciliation only leads to getting their fingers bitten off. It look them a long time to realize this because, no matter how contentious the legislature may have been in the past, there was always room to find common ground on issues central to domestic and foreign policy.
The neo-conservatives have decided that a unilateral approach towards lawmaking and policy is key to keeping their power base, and they'll do anything to keep power regardless of who they have to smear and what they need to destroy.
While the Bush-ois brothers may be waiting in the wings to occupy Shrub's seat in the oval office, they may be in for a longer wait than they first expected. Democrats are finding a backbone again, and that scares the hell out of conservatives.
Posted by: Larry A. Sakin | Feb 12, 2005 at 02:29 PM
Did Joe Liebermann seal it with a kiss?
Posted by: Cheryl Tyler | Feb 13, 2005 at 01:27 PM
I was glad to hear that the Democrats are finally fighting back. Wish they had refused to certify this stolen election. Sen. Boxer is one of the top standard bearers now because of her courageous lone Senatorial stand against the criminal certification of the treasonous vote rigging in both the 2000 and 2004 Presidential Elections.
A new site for Boxer also has Rep. Conyers asking for support in his new amendment to the Constitution to fight the type of fraud and dirty tricks that have cost us so many lives and could stop bushco because if your votes don't count and even the Recount/Audit is tampered with and please go to the Green Party Recount site to see what the corrupt Ohio Attorney General is trying to do to the Greens attorneys which may cost them their homes for filing "frivolous" lawsuits.
The theft of votes is not frivolous and neither are the War Crimes that the German Prosecutor has accepted an indictment for Rumsfeld, Gens. Sanchez, Miller and other top brass and even the mainstream media wrote of the Center for Constitutional Rights adding Gonzales name to the sickening details of the former prisoners of Abu Ghraib and the torture they experienced and witnessed in the downloadable plaintiffs' charges on ccr-ny.
JOIN THE REAL BOXER REBELLION AT:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoxerRebellion/message/34
We need everyone to hit all their personal favorite websites andblogs to recruit fellow Boxer supporters to this group and the group
blog. Talk about all the good work Sen Boxer is doing right now, andleave the links to both the group and the blog.
Sen. Boxer is carrying the majority of the burden of putting upresistance to Dubya and the neo-con. Point that fact out, and rally support for Sen. Boxer. More info on recent postings on this site:
Subject: Sen. Boxer: Peace of Mind vs. a Gamble: The Social Security Debate
Help Sen. Boxer by signing petition to save Social Security:
http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/petition.cfm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoxerRebellion/message/90
From Rep. Conyer's website...
Dear Friend:
As 109th Congress convenes, I write to thank you for the energy and
resources you continue to commit to the pursuit of a just electoral
process. Once again, I am indebted especially to the internet
activists and the members of the alternative media whose enduring
efforts shed light on an issue that too few in the mainstream media
have been willing to discuss. There is a new fight ahead, the fight
for comprehensive election reform legislation, and I write to ask
for your help....
http://www.johnconyers.com/
I vigorously support John Conyers and his brave colleagues- Election reform is mandatory and the behavior of Katherine Harris in 2000 and secy. Blackwell in 2004 was not acceptable - I will help in any way I can- fair elections are the bedrock of society- people on the street are very angry
Posted by: TateMatthews | Feb 14, 2005 at 03:45 AM
I have been thinking of things that I have read about the bravery of people in the Resistance in the first part of the Third Reich and we will need as much courage to fight this continuation by Bushco. Read about the Bush Families very real Nazi ties on the site Here In Reality.com and Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about Skull and Bones, the Iran-Contra CNN archives about Bush Senior's major drug trafficking and that is just for starters. How to communicate this to people who either don't want to know or people like myself until I gained Internet access a year ago, knew nothing of the strong evidence of complicity in 911 by Bushco and the other crimes that one message posting stated that "The Bush Family Crimes are beginning to fill a Library of Congress."
Keep writing the newspapers and Congress.org and churches, some are involved in stopping the torture. http://action.humanrightsfirst.org/campaign/etn_gonzales_oppose
http://ccr-ny.org/v2/reports/report.asp?ObjID=TCRlT9TuSb&Content=471
To Contact German War Crimes Prosecutor with universal authority to indict and arrest
those guilty of Crimes Against Humanity.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/21105/
http://www.guantanamohrc.org/
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/blog/
We are appalled that revered conventions are being blatantly flouted such as the dictum that someone is presumed innocent until proven guilty and that everyone is entitled to legal defence of his choice and that habeas corpus obtains. I support your efforts to ensure justice is done for your loved ones and that they will be given access to the families. God bless you.” The Most Reverend Desmond Tutu
As White House Counsel, Alberto Gonzales helped open the door to abuses at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. He approved a definition of torture so narrow that it undermined discipline in the military, put American fighting men and women at greater risk, and compromised the ability of United States Government to hold the moral high ground.
Please urge your Senators to send a message to the rest of the world that the United States doesn't condone torture and abides by the rule of law. Click on the link below to take
action.
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp
Letter to German Prosecutor
I have a gymnastics yahoo site that I started last June and have spent a lot of time uploading Photos taken from videos with special effects and paintings. Not many members and no one was posting to my introduction so I started writing about the Election Fraud, going to the Jan. 6, 2005Rally to support Senators who would vote against certifying this stolen election (Unfortunately, Boxer was the only one but maybe her example is why many more Democrats refused to confirm Gonzales but need more, keep writing). I also posted on my site some of the leaflets from the original WHITE ROSE which tried to inform and inspire people to oppose hitler when he was coming to power with the aid of Prescott Bush and other wealthy Americans. There is a current United Kingdom WHITE ROSE site which talks about the same fascist laws being secretly passed like the National ID card and renamed Patriot Act or Marital Law and the silence of the British press after BBC was challenged by the powers that be in British politics.
I received 2 very nasty responses accusing me of being a fanatic and a fantasist which I responded to in kind. There is a Gymnastic Messageboard that I haven't been to for a long time that has a separate off-topics section and it makes sense that people who are against the slide into fascism which has been written about in excellent essays on Sen. Byrd's and Sen. Ron Paul's (real conservative, not neocon New World Order) websites - would have other interests and it helps to take some mini-vacations from constant letter writing and reading about bushco's latest atrocities.
Garcia Lorca wrote "Take care that the wedding go on within the war."
Anyway, if you would like to read what I have written, and people are welcome to write about any subject even though it is in the Sports section, my site is:
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/YelenaDavidova
Posted by: TateMatthews | Feb 14, 2005 at 03:47 AM
Did anyone hear that Sen. Mark Dayton of Minne. will not run again? He's being kicked around terribly for demanding that bush stop lying on the Senate floor. This was in 2003. Hence is hassles from republicans and intimidations. Sen. Dayton says he won't have the money to fund the super tough campaign it would take to get re-elected. Anyone want to help me raise some money? We need a truth talker like Dayton. Didn't we fund the huge recounts (that should've been free)? We can raise money any good cause that will save our democracy. Email if interested.
Posted by: Tricia | Feb 15, 2005 at 12:10 AM